Comments on: Struggling Against Homosexuality, Finding Islam

By: silentstrugge

silentstrugge — Tue, 30 Aug 2011 18:25:43 +0000

if you are reading this and are looking for a way out and dont know where to start; please check out the following link;

http://www.scribd.com/doc/63466375/A-Silent-Struggle-to-the-Straight-Path

you can download it is as a document or read online, it contains a lot of advice and guidance from an islamic persepective, to show you a way out of this sickness of the heart.

insha’allah it will be of benefit to you.

Please upload to other sites and share this link if you feel you gain anything from this book.

Jazak Allah

By: Struggling Against Homosexuality, Finding Islam « Exploring Life, The Universe and Everything

Wed, 18 Feb 2009 14:46:54 +0000

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By: Anis Kotia

Anis Kotia — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 21:50:40 +0000

Achmet don’t give up. Try these things and tell us if they work:

1) Start to say Alhamdulillah, Astaghfirullah and Allahummahdini as often as you can whilst walking around the house / doing your chores.

2) Stop watching all films which are pornographic
3) Do not watch any scenes within films or tv programmes which are sexual or racy

4) As soon as you see anything which sexually attracts you to it, say Astaghfirullah and avert or lower your eyes.

5) Pray 5 times a day

6) Go to the mosque at least once a day to pray

7) Fast at least once a week…I think the Prophet (p.b.u.h.) would fast usually on a Thursday. If you feel the pangs growing, fast more regularly. (Warning: don’t fast too much that you become ill though)

8) Last but not least…never lose hope in the mercy of Allah…it may take a while to come but believe me it always does come. Remember what the Prophet (p.b.u.h.) said that if a slave walks towards Allah, He approaches them running.

By: Bravvooo!

Bravvooo! — Tue, 17 Jun 2008 03:00:55 +0000

Straight from the lab:

Homosexual brains differ in both anatomy and physiology to straight brains. It’s no sin, it’s nature. If I had my way I would suggest that “sin” would be seeking knowledge from outdated scriptures and imposing them on the rest of us with the arrogance of those who think they know what they’re talking about.

http://www.newscientist.com/channel/sex/dn14146-gay-brains-structured-like-those-of-the-opposite-sex.html?feedId=online-news_rss20

By: dontknowhy

dontknowhy — Tue, 27 May 2008 18:58:48 +0000

wow! this is great. i am muslim and gay both at the same time. yeah its kinda cool to know that there is a StraightStruggle group. yes, i wanna join. but before that, to those who always say that Gay is so clearly punishable to death in Islam, do you guys really read the Quran? because i havent really ‘studied’ the Quran, so i cant say. I read an article from a scholar who gives more depth in this topic about gay in islam. during Prophet’s time, was there any gay case?i mean like two gays brought to him and he stoned them to death?was there a case like that? i only know that the first case was during caliph Ali (correct me if i am wrong) to the story of br Ayub, yeah the jihad is one thing, but why didnt u tell us and share with us what were the challenges? what were the events and incidents that make it possible for you to do it? i am so lost.. mainstream muslims always say that we have to follow sharia law. who studied the law anyway? how come the shariah law being implemented in one country differs from another? u will answer; it has to suit the local culture etc. so does that mean sharia law is flexible and not fixed? in todays world, ppl are using islam for their own benefits. some ppl are said to be championing islam, but what did they do? why muslims are mostly poor?uneducated?mistreated etc? why busy to bomb here and there? why not use the skills in designing space ship etc? (just an example) arghhhhhhhhhhhh…..sometime some muslim claimed this and that, and we have to remember, we have to evaluate and decide for ourselves for whats good and whats bad. i wonder what is the challenge for Shayk Yusof al Qardawi in his life (just an example of a high position aalim straight guy, it could be any one) ? as mine is this desire and lust to men. what would be his?and why everybody bothers and judging me for having mine? anybody knows and why nobody bothers about that? oh by the way, forgot to say that i agree with bravvooo and i think ‘woman’ is such a hypocrite. i really pity her gay acquaintances. and ‘woman’ really hates gay and thinks that it is alright. but she wouldnt agree if someone comes and says he/she hates muslim including herself and ‘woman’ would say that is an act of racism. if woman is really a good person, she should not act this way, for islam is all about tolerance and good manner. by calling gay names, ‘like infesting our society’, i am seriously offended. and you know what islam says? you could seek forgiveness from Allah for sins between u and Him, but for sins committed between humans, its up to those whom u had offended. correct me if i am wrong. i admit that i had this feeling and often questioned myself why??why me?? this is just too big for me….maybe it should have been tested on Qardawi instead….

By: wiki

wiki — Mon, 26 May 2008 23:14:17 +0000

If islam’s name wasnt islam then it would be ‘the middle religion’ .
Islam takes a middle path in everthing it preaches. Being too good is just as wrong as being too bad. For example: if being good means telling the truth in your every day conversations then what do you do when the truth is so sad and devestating that the person u are talking too might get a heart attack and die? Islam allowes you to tell a lie in a situtation like this. See? middle path between good and bad is the right path

now the above is what i believe but you may not and shiya muslims may belive something else and a suni and a wahabi etc etc … which one of those is right? ….

If you claim that telling what is right and wrong is so simple and elementary in Islam then tell me who is right? shiya or suni or wahabi?

All of the fractions within islam follow a logical path but one logical path doesnt make sense to the muslim who is following a different logical path… which one is created by satan? can you tell me that?

Muhammed once said that “my Umma will never agree on what is halal and what is haram”. He also said that there will be 12 sections within my Umma

If Muhammed himself has said that we will not agree on what is right and what is wrong then why are we arguing about this? why dont we just accept each others differenes and get along because if we dont then we will never agree.

By: Rasheed Eldin

Rasheed Eldin — Mon, 26 May 2008 11:53:26 +0000

Wiki, no offence intended, but if you don’t know how we can distinguish between good and bad, right and wrong, truth and falsehood, then you are missing the very basics of the understanding of a Muslim. I don’t believe that’s the case – rather, I think you can answer this for yourself.

The whole of our religion is based upon submitting to Allah, Who is the One to judge for us what is right and wrong. And all our questions go back to one source for their answers: the revelation. In other words, the Qur’an and the Sunnah.

There are abundant ayahs and hadiths that tell us about things that may be enjoyable but are wrong. Things that the Satan beautifies in the eyes of those who follow his deception. We can indeed be objective about these things, and make our rational minds lead our desires towards submission and obedience, not the other way round.

By: wiki

wiki — Sat, 10 May 2008 00:29:11 +0000

“…this life is not the domain of pleasure and fulfilment, but rather the ground of testing and patience.”

you can also look at this this way: “this life is a gift to us from allah and it will be a sin if we did not enjoy the good things allah created for us to the fullest.”

now the question what things are good and what are bad? honestly i dont have the answer to that. As an architect student i can tell you that one thing that is beautiful to one person may be annoying to the other. For example a ‘fountain.’ One can like the sound of the falling water and think it is beautiful but on the other hand someone else might think it is annoying and a distraction.

who is right and who is wrong? does there have to be a right and wrong?

By: Rasheed Eldin

Rasheed Eldin — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 16:18:22 +0000

Dear Walid,

Thanks for your questions, although I’m always wary of someone who thinks he’s impartial! Bias is not a problem as long as we can recognise it in ourselves and deal with it justly.

The key to answering your questions is to realise that this life is not the domain of pleasure and fulfilment, but rather the ground of testing and patience. So while it is allowed for us to enjoy the lawful things of this world (including sexual relations), the limit will always be the boundaries that God has placed for us, namely His prohibitions. So not every type of sexual fulfilment is acceptable, meaning that if we choose to indulge in these (limited, temporary) pleasures using our free will, we will be held to account for that by God, and perhaps forbidden from the ultimate, complete, eternal bliss that awaits the steadfast in the Hereafter.

Your concern about depression etc. is obviously heartfelt, but it doesn’t recognise the liberation that comes from obeying Allah over one’s base desires. I’m familiar with the slogan “living a lie”, but obedience is the truth and it is everything else that is falsehood.

By: Rasheed Eldin

Rasheed Eldin — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 16:09:36 +0000

Rahid, wa ‘alaykum as-salam.

Your question is fair, but unfortunately it’s not possible for me to attempt here to provide a comprehensive list, either of the evidences against homosexuality in the Islamic sources, or the wisdoms behind this prohibition. That seems like a worthwhile project, but it would be a big one!

This is a worthwhile introduction in sha’ Allah:
http://gaymuslims.org/2007/02/23/why-were-the-sodomites-destroyed/

I’ll mention just that the nature of the prohibition of homosexuality is not limited to “don’t do anal sex”, but in fact is based on a number of aspects, including:

1. The creation of man and woman as pair-halves for each other, and the urge to marry to fulfil “half of faith”, to live in love and mercy, and to have children.
2. The prohibition of any sexual relations at all outside of this bond of marriage.
3. Closing of the many doors that can lead to infidelity to one’s spouse, either before marriage or during (many of these directly mentioned in the texts, and others derived by analogy).
4. The prohibition of perverting the nature on which humanity was created, and performing shameful and debasing acts.

When it comes to rational reasons, I’m all for exploring those in order to understand more fully, but for a Muslim, the textual evidence should be enough. There are plenty of things in religious teaching that we only partly understand, but we obey our Creator knowing that He knows best what is in our interests, and that success comes only through His obedience.

Now to come to your question about having a wife but also “a lover for emotional stability” – I’m afraid I don’t know how this could possibly lead to stability, cheating on your life partner? There is no harm in having close friends, with whom you share certain emotional things that you don’t with others (even your wife), but there are limits to this and you must be careful not to overstep. Is it not enough to have a brother and friend, rather than a “lover” – with whom you have no physical relationship? Can you explain what the difference is between the two, and that way we may both see it more clearly and be able to differentiate acceptable from unacceptable…