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		<title>By: CONCERNED MUSLIM-CONCERNED WORLD CITIZEN</title>
		<link>http://gaymuslims.org/2007/02/24/yasir-qadhi-lecture/#comment-14752</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CONCERNED MUSLIM-CONCERNED WORLD CITIZEN]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 09:25:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[THIS IS WRONG...DO NOT LET YOUR DESIRES GET THE BEST OF YOU. HOMOSEXUALITY IS CLEARLY FORBIDDEN-NOT JUST IN ISLAM BUT IN ALL RELIGIONS. CAN TWO MEN HAVE CHILDREN? NO. CAN TWO WOMEN HAVE CHILDREN? NO. IT TAKES A MAN AND A WOMEN TO CONTINUE THE CIRCLE OF LIFE.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THIS IS WRONG&#8230;DO NOT LET YOUR DESIRES GET THE BEST OF YOU. HOMOSEXUALITY IS CLEARLY FORBIDDEN-NOT JUST IN ISLAM BUT IN ALL RELIGIONS. CAN TWO MEN HAVE CHILDREN? NO. CAN TWO WOMEN HAVE CHILDREN? NO. IT TAKES A MAN AND A WOMEN TO CONTINUE THE CIRCLE OF LIFE.</p>
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		<title>By: Inkomi</title>
		<link>http://gaymuslims.org/2007/02/24/yasir-qadhi-lecture/#comment-11979</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Inkomi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 00:16:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Midnight Stroller, I think you misunderstood the previous comments because you don&#039;t distinguish between homosexuality ie homosexual temptations and homosexuality ie homosexual ACTS. Unfortunately English seems to have only one word for both cases, because in the West there&#039;s usually no distinction made between the two. From what I&#039;ve read, no one has denied that homosexual acts were haram, they just said that homosexual feelings, as long as they were not acted upon, were ok just like any evil temptation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Midnight Stroller, I think you misunderstood the previous comments because you don&#8217;t distinguish between homosexuality ie homosexual temptations and homosexuality ie homosexual ACTS. Unfortunately English seems to have only one word for both cases, because in the West there&#8217;s usually no distinction made between the two. From what I&#8217;ve read, no one has denied that homosexual acts were haram, they just said that homosexual feelings, as long as they were not acted upon, were ok just like any evil temptation.</p>
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		<title>By: Inkomi</title>
		<link>http://gaymuslims.org/2007/02/24/yasir-qadhi-lecture/#comment-11978</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Inkomi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 00:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Salam alaykum

It might not be very important, but I&#039;ve read this misconception many times so I&#039;d like to say that pigs are not the only species where females mate with multiple partners. Dogs do that a lot, as I can see on a daily basis (some of my non-Muslim relatives have up to 7 dogs)
So that argument really cannot be used to support a rational explanation for pork ban, which wouldn&#039;t be much use anyway.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Salam alaykum</p>
<p>It might not be very important, but I&#8217;ve read this misconception many times so I&#8217;d like to say that pigs are not the only species where females mate with multiple partners. Dogs do that a lot, as I can see on a daily basis (some of my non-Muslim relatives have up to 7 dogs)<br />
So that argument really cannot be used to support a rational explanation for pork ban, which wouldn&#8217;t be much use anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Habiba Khan</title>
		<link>http://gaymuslims.org/2007/02/24/yasir-qadhi-lecture/#comment-8944</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Habiba Khan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 13:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To give my two cents on what Tantris said,

The Prophet of Allah did NOT marry a child, rather he married a young woman who reached puberty and was mature.

Totally not a child...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To give my two cents on what Tantris said,</p>
<p>The Prophet of Allah did NOT marry a child, rather he married a young woman who reached puberty and was mature.</p>
<p>Totally not a child&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Qusai</title>
		<link>http://gaymuslims.org/2007/02/24/yasir-qadhi-lecture/#comment-8461</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Qusai]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 18:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Salam

I would like to write a decent response but I would be gratefull if you could keep it short next time, please.

I feel jealous that you are still in a healthy state of faith that has abandoned me years ago. I appreciate your advice and you sound sincere but let me make some comments:

1. There are several sites and forums dedicated to the issue you like to see discussed and I myself participate in other fora where the issues of Israel/Palestine arise.

2. I am not defying God. That would be ridiculous. I happen to be the type who can not be sudued by intimidation. I NEED to reason things to myself. Reason is the most precious faculty man has. It is that what keeps the distinction between us and animals.

If you can&#039;t handle me please ignore what I write. I&#039;ve noticed that there are many out there who are happy to tackle people like myself to the intellectual and religious satisfaction to both sides. No harm done, no condescension needed.  

3. You wrote: 
...No. in case of captivity or starvation, pigs eat their own young...

Please scroll back up to my entry. This is exactly what I wrote. 

4. You mentioned homosexuals are at risk of many diseases. By the way most are linked to HIV and none of that would happen unless the homosexual male was promiscuous. I reiterate it is promiscuity and not homosexuality per se that is the problem here.

Salam for now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Salam</p>
<p>I would like to write a decent response but I would be gratefull if you could keep it short next time, please.</p>
<p>I feel jealous that you are still in a healthy state of faith that has abandoned me years ago. I appreciate your advice and you sound sincere but let me make some comments:</p>
<p>1. There are several sites and forums dedicated to the issue you like to see discussed and I myself participate in other fora where the issues of Israel/Palestine arise.</p>
<p>2. I am not defying God. That would be ridiculous. I happen to be the type who can not be sudued by intimidation. I NEED to reason things to myself. Reason is the most precious faculty man has. It is that what keeps the distinction between us and animals.</p>
<p>If you can&#8217;t handle me please ignore what I write. I&#8217;ve noticed that there are many out there who are happy to tackle people like myself to the intellectual and religious satisfaction to both sides. No harm done, no condescension needed.  </p>
<p>3. You wrote:<br />
&#8230;No. in case of captivity or starvation, pigs eat their own young&#8230;</p>
<p>Please scroll back up to my entry. This is exactly what I wrote. </p>
<p>4. You mentioned homosexuals are at risk of many diseases. By the way most are linked to HIV and none of that would happen unless the homosexual male was promiscuous. I reiterate it is promiscuity and not homosexuality per se that is the problem here.</p>
<p>Salam for now.</p>
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		<title>By: midnight stroller</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 20:03:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Back to more important issues: Liberation of PALESTINE and Release of all innocent Muslims detainees from all prisons. 
Ya Allahu Akbar! Ya Allah Madad!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back to more important issues: Liberation of PALESTINE and Release of all innocent Muslims detainees from all prisons.<br />
Ya Allahu Akbar! Ya Allah Madad!</p>
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		<title>By: midnight stroller</title>
		<link>http://gaymuslims.org/2007/02/24/yasir-qadhi-lecture/#comment-8434</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[midnight stroller]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 20:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Islam is a way of life. It is a system of beliefs based on divine revelation. As other systems rely for their laws and regulations on the human element, Muslims refer to Allah, the Creator, for their laws and regulations. Our very understanding of our existence, life, and the after-life is dependent on this One source.

As Muslims, we also believe that one must search for the truth, the ultimate truth that is the basis of one’s basic beliefs. The search must be thorough and uncompromising. If one comes to the conclusion after that search that the truth lies in Islam, the system MUST be accepted as a whole. As a Muslim, one cannot choose to follow parts of Islam and disregard others. The whole-hearted acceptance of Islam as a religion entails a similar whole-hearted acceptance of its ideology and doctrine, which are thus practiced to the extent of one’s power. “Then is it only a part of the Book that ye believe in, and do ye reject the rest? But what is the reward for those among you who behave like this but disgrace in this life? And on the day of judgement they shall be consigned to the most grievous penalty. For Allah is not unmindful of what ye do.” (2:85). This does not imply that sin becomes obsolete. But it does mean that if one sins, one realizes it and acknowledges his actions as such. Homosexuality is a sin. In the light of Sheikh Yasir&#039;s lecture, accept Islam as it was revealed and taught and practised by Rasool Allah sallahu aliyihi wa sallam. Do not distort its teachings to justify your sinful acts and evil thoughts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Islam is a way of life. It is a system of beliefs based on divine revelation. As other systems rely for their laws and regulations on the human element, Muslims refer to Allah, the Creator, for their laws and regulations. Our very understanding of our existence, life, and the after-life is dependent on this One source.</p>
<p>As Muslims, we also believe that one must search for the truth, the ultimate truth that is the basis of one’s basic beliefs. The search must be thorough and uncompromising. If one comes to the conclusion after that search that the truth lies in Islam, the system MUST be accepted as a whole. As a Muslim, one cannot choose to follow parts of Islam and disregard others. The whole-hearted acceptance of Islam as a religion entails a similar whole-hearted acceptance of its ideology and doctrine, which are thus practiced to the extent of one’s power. “Then is it only a part of the Book that ye believe in, and do ye reject the rest? But what is the reward for those among you who behave like this but disgrace in this life? And on the day of judgement they shall be consigned to the most grievous penalty. For Allah is not unmindful of what ye do.” (2:85). This does not imply that sin becomes obsolete. But it does mean that if one sins, one realizes it and acknowledges his actions as such. Homosexuality is a sin. In the light of Sheikh Yasir&#8217;s lecture, accept Islam as it was revealed and taught and practised by Rasool Allah sallahu aliyihi wa sallam. Do not distort its teachings to justify your sinful acts and evil thoughts.</p>
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		<title>By: midnight stroller</title>
		<link>http://gaymuslims.org/2007/02/24/yasir-qadhi-lecture/#comment-8433</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[midnight stroller]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 19:58:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Assalam alikum warahmatullah brother Abdullah. SubhanAllah I cannot believe that people here use verses of Quran to claim homosexuality is normal and forgiven by Allah. Allah describes homosexuality as ignorance: “Would ye really approach men in your lusts rather than women? Nay, ye are a people (grossly) ignorant!” (27: 55).Yet elsewhere we read, “For ye practise your lusts on men in preference to women : ye are indeed a people transgressing beyond bounds.” (7:81). “And we rained down on them a shower (of brimstone): Then see what was the end of those who indulged in sin and crime!” (7: 84). “He said: &quot;O my Lord! help Thou me against people who do mischief!&quot;” (29: 30). The West, however, wishes to turn homosexuality into something acceptable by society. Not only that, but laws and regulations are being construed to legalize this sin and many of the issues surrounding it. SubhanAllah Allah says in Surah 61 that He does not guide the Dhalimoon, the tyrants, the wrongdoers and the Faisq, the wicked, repeated sinners. O Allah I seek refuge in Your from dhulum and fisq aameen.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Assalam alikum warahmatullah brother Abdullah. SubhanAllah I cannot believe that people here use verses of Quran to claim homosexuality is normal and forgiven by Allah. Allah describes homosexuality as ignorance: “Would ye really approach men in your lusts rather than women? Nay, ye are a people (grossly) ignorant!” (27: 55).Yet elsewhere we read, “For ye practise your lusts on men in preference to women : ye are indeed a people transgressing beyond bounds.” (7:81). “And we rained down on them a shower (of brimstone): Then see what was the end of those who indulged in sin and crime!” (7: 84). “He said: &#8220;O my Lord! help Thou me against people who do mischief!&#8221;” (29: 30). The West, however, wishes to turn homosexuality into something acceptable by society. Not only that, but laws and regulations are being construed to legalize this sin and many of the issues surrounding it. SubhanAllah Allah says in Surah 61 that He does not guide the Dhalimoon, the tyrants, the wrongdoers and the Faisq, the wicked, repeated sinners. O Allah I seek refuge in Your from dhulum and fisq aameen.</p>
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		<title>By: midnight stroller</title>
		<link>http://gaymuslims.org/2007/02/24/yasir-qadhi-lecture/#comment-8431</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[midnight stroller]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 19:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Qusai ... a Muslim playing a devil&#039;s advocate speaks for itself. What could be expected of such a Muslim other than sheer folly and defiance to Allah and all that He has revealed. SubhanAllah.
The reason why I message is not dumpt my anger. First, I am baffled that the two Muslim grassroot organizations I have searched thus far, seem to be only focusing on gay issues. Is there nothing else in the world that matters? I am sorry, but isnt the entire Midde East and the Muslim World in state of war? Hanging between life and death and all the Canadian Muslims grassroot organizations can do is quarrel over homosexuality. SubhanAllah. Second, your assertion of pigs raising familing and behaving milding. No. in case of captivity or starvation, pigs eat their own young. Moreover, pigs are the only animals that allow their women to mate with multiple male partners at the same time. Considering its living, eating and sexual habits, any greedy, nasty and, or disgusting person is called a pig. 
Nutritionists werent kidding when they said, &quot;You are what you eat&quot; so choose your diet wisely. Rasool Allah sallahu alyihi wa sallam said, &quot;You are on the Deen to your friend, so be mindful of whom you befriend&quot;. 
And third, homosexuals are at a elevated risk of all sexually transmitted diseases.  Hodgkin’s Disease, Anal Cancer, Impairment of Immune Response, Kaposi Sarcoma and so on. Moreover, The CDC reports in its June 2000 HIV/AIDS Surveillance Report that men who have sex with men (MSM) account for the majority of AIDS cases in the United States.
Wallahu 3alam.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Qusai &#8230; a Muslim playing a devil&#8217;s advocate speaks for itself. What could be expected of such a Muslim other than sheer folly and defiance to Allah and all that He has revealed. SubhanAllah.<br />
The reason why I message is not dumpt my anger. First, I am baffled that the two Muslim grassroot organizations I have searched thus far, seem to be only focusing on gay issues. Is there nothing else in the world that matters? I am sorry, but isnt the entire Midde East and the Muslim World in state of war? Hanging between life and death and all the Canadian Muslims grassroot organizations can do is quarrel over homosexuality. SubhanAllah. Second, your assertion of pigs raising familing and behaving milding. No. in case of captivity or starvation, pigs eat their own young. Moreover, pigs are the only animals that allow their women to mate with multiple male partners at the same time. Considering its living, eating and sexual habits, any greedy, nasty and, or disgusting person is called a pig.<br />
Nutritionists werent kidding when they said, &#8220;You are what you eat&#8221; so choose your diet wisely. Rasool Allah sallahu alyihi wa sallam said, &#8220;You are on the Deen to your friend, so be mindful of whom you befriend&#8221;.<br />
And third, homosexuals are at a elevated risk of all sexually transmitted diseases.  Hodgkin’s Disease, Anal Cancer, Impairment of Immune Response, Kaposi Sarcoma and so on. Moreover, The CDC reports in its June 2000 HIV/AIDS Surveillance Report that men who have sex with men (MSM) account for the majority of AIDS cases in the United States.<br />
Wallahu 3alam.</p>
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		<title>By: Qusai</title>
		<link>http://gaymuslims.org/2007/02/24/yasir-qadhi-lecture/#comment-7271</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Qusai]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 20:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Salam Abdullah,

All points are valid and agreed to but allow me to play devil&#039;s advocate for a minute:

Pigs do infact tend to display incredibly filthy behaviour under captivity. They not just eat their excrement but they eat their young sometimes. However without the stress of captivity they have been observed to raise their &#039;families&#039; and behave in a mild manner. 

I feel that prohibition of pork is more to do with showing a willingness to abide by the rules of God than anything else.

STDs are transmitted by heterosexuals as well. The problem is promiscuity and not homosexual behaviour per se. Others would point out that anal penetration is a cause of incontinence. This is true but 
1. By and large the commonest cause of this dysfunction is childbirth. A perfectly natural process.
2. Sodomy in not exclusively performed by homosexuals and not all homosexual activity necessarily incorporates this act.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Salam Abdullah,</p>
<p>All points are valid and agreed to but allow me to play devil&#8217;s advocate for a minute:</p>
<p>Pigs do infact tend to display incredibly filthy behaviour under captivity. They not just eat their excrement but they eat their young sometimes. However without the stress of captivity they have been observed to raise their &#8216;families&#8217; and behave in a mild manner. </p>
<p>I feel that prohibition of pork is more to do with showing a willingness to abide by the rules of God than anything else.</p>
<p>STDs are transmitted by heterosexuals as well. The problem is promiscuity and not homosexual behaviour per se. Others would point out that anal penetration is a cause of incontinence. This is true but<br />
1. By and large the commonest cause of this dysfunction is childbirth. A perfectly natural process.<br />
2. Sodomy in not exclusively performed by homosexuals and not all homosexual activity necessarily incorporates this act.</p>
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