These two entities sufficed plenty:

“If two among you (men) commit it (fornication) punish them both.If they repent and mend their ways leave them both”.(Quran 4:16)

A man must not look at a man’s private parts nor must a woman look at a woman’s private parts; neither should two men lie naked under one cover, nor should two women lie naked under the same cover. [Muslim]

Will the people who claim to be of the understanding not take heed?

I strongly believe that,contrary to common belief,Islam comes from the word taslim which means ‘submission’ and not ‘peace’.(though if we subject ourselves to God’s will peace will be an inevitable outcome of course)

A true Muslim submits himself to God entirely and should care more about the punishment he shall suffer at the hands of Al-Mulk (All Powerful King) in the hereafter rather than at the hands of men.

I so often hear about Muslims not engaging in homosexual acts out of fear that people in their society may find out and they may suffer condemnation/punishment.
I fear they may willingly indulge in unlawful acts if the fear of man’s wrath is removed.
What about the wrath of Ad-Daar (The Distresser)?

That is NOT supposed to be the main intention behind the acts of Muslims!
We are to try to please Allah,The Mighty!

Often Muslims (who wish to commit disliked or forbidden acts) say “how forbidden is it?” in regard to any act…
My response:It does not matter if it’s makrooh or haram or how much it is stressed upon…if it is mentioned with distaste in the Quran,Sahih Hadith or Hassan Hadith ONCE then END OF MATTER!
Instead of trying to actively seek the pleasure of Allah they just wish to isolate themselves from Allah’s wrath (that too to an extent)!
This attitude is just plain wrong…

That is why I believe going into detail about the story of Lut (Peace Be Upon Him) is…well…a useless act for a true believer (what I wanna become!).
Slight,but concrete,evidence is more than enough if it is made clear (I don’t know how much more clear it can be in this matter though! =P ).

Thank You for your ongoing efforts in trying to make those who disbelieve understand.
May Allah reward you plenty and aid you greatly in your endeavors.

And sorry about my looong post…
Force of habit! =P

Wassalam

Thank you for providing a medium for discussion in the first place, recognition is a step towards acceptance.

Certainly it’s our belief that anything that Allah prohibits us from must be harmful to us in one way or another, whether we perceive and understand that harm now, later, or only after we leave this world.

If what you mentioned is a reason (as can be surmised from verse 7:81, which says they are a “wasteful” people, which means putting things in other than their proper place), then it’s only a minor reason. As you said, it cannot stand by itself because we know that contraception in various forms is acceptable.

Various explanations are offered by writers, classical and modern, which are convincing to varying degrees. In olden times it was (and to many, many people, still is) simply obvious that such actions are disgusting and against the nature of humans. Nowadays, people have newly shaped views of what is “natural”. Also, “love” is brought to the fore of what this issue is about, and many people (even supposed Muslims) have no concern for what is prohibited by indisputable revealed texts.

Perhaps this is something I can prepare more thoughts on in the future, and if you come across any interesting perspectives, please do share. You can also email at the address mentioned under “About”. Sorry to be very brief just now.

I appreciate what you’re doing here and had a quick question: do you have any idea why homosexual actions/marriage isn’t allowed? Usually there is a clear reason as to why something is haram. Is it because semen is “wasted”? But then why would birth control be halal?

You know yourself much better than I do, of course, but I have to say that I’m a little sceptical of how sure you can really be that these feelings started before you suffered abuse, because it was such a very young age. You could be right, but I suggest not pinning too much importance on that supposition, because after all, much has happened since then.

You’re right, life is a struggle for all of us, and we each have our own challenges to face. I hope you can at least aspire to the idea of marriage, but certainly if you don’t get married, there’s no sin in that. Indeed, if ultimately you feel that you just couldn’t fulfil the role of a wife, it would be wrong to get married.

Regarding marrying a man who is similarly uninterested in women, I haven’t heard scholars discuss this specific question, but personally I find it to be an unrealistic solution. I can see how people might resort to it just to avoid questions from family, but really it just seems to open up all sorts of new problems. Allah knows best.

I think you would benefit from this support group if you’re not already a member: http://www.straightstruggle.com

MAy ALLAH bless you.Wa SALAM