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	<title>Comments on: Irshad Manji had a great fall</title>
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	<description>Principled, compassionate Islamic perspective</description>
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		<title>By: Rasheed Eldin</title>
		<link>http://gaymuslims.org/2006/09/11/irshad-manji-had-a-great-fall/#comment-2285</link>
		<dc:creator>Rasheed Eldin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 12:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wa &#039;alaikum assalam.

I&#039;ll certainly give that some thought.

But we don&#039;t post pictures online: the only pictures we&#039;ve used are already online, as the people seem quite proud of their mugshots.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wa &#8216;alaikum assalam.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll certainly give that some thought.</p>
<p>But we don&#8217;t post pictures online: the only pictures we&#8217;ve used are already online, as the people seem quite proud of their mugshots.</p>
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		<title>By: ABD</title>
		<link>http://gaymuslims.org/2006/09/11/irshad-manji-had-a-great-fall/#comment-2261</link>
		<dc:creator>ABD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Dec 2006 17:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>as-salaam alaykum, brother rasheed

i was talking about this post, not the site. but my sincere advice to you is to reflect on what this post says about your project and your approach. if you find that your site is consistent with the tagline but the post is not, i suggest you take the post down. 

and while i&#039;m at it, i would also ask you to rethink &quot;exposing&quot; people to a degree where you post pics of them online. this can have serious consequences: in other (unrelated) cases, exposing personal identities (names, pictures, sometimes even including their home address) has led to politically or ideologically motivated violence by someone who found this kind of personal information on a site.

and Allah knows best.

ps. and no, i am not writing you off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as-salaam alaykum, brother rasheed</p>
<p>i was talking about this post, not the site. but my sincere advice to you is to reflect on what this post says about your project and your approach. if you find that your site is consistent with the tagline but the post is not, i suggest you take the post down. </p>
<p>and while i&#8217;m at it, i would also ask you to rethink &#8220;exposing&#8221; people to a degree where you post pics of them online. this can have serious consequences: in other (unrelated) cases, exposing personal identities (names, pictures, sometimes even including their home address) has led to politically or ideologically motivated violence by someone who found this kind of personal information on a site.</p>
<p>and Allah knows best.</p>
<p>ps. and no, i am not writing you off.</p>
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		<title>By: Rasheed Eldin</title>
		<link>http://gaymuslims.org/2006/09/11/irshad-manji-had-a-great-fall/#comment-2257</link>
		<dc:creator>Rasheed Eldin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Dec 2006 12:15:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very wry. But this controversial post aside, what basis have you to write us off?

We are principled because we return always to the Qur&#039;an and Sunnah, respecting scholarship through the ages and today. We are compassionate because we wish to understand people&#039;s feelings and problems, and don&#039;t go to excesses in condemnation. We are Islamic for the same reason as we are principled: our principles are Islam as opposed to any other worldview.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very wry. But this controversial post aside, what basis have you to write us off?</p>
<p>We are principled because we return always to the Qur&#8217;an and Sunnah, respecting scholarship through the ages and today. We are compassionate because we wish to understand people&#8217;s feelings and problems, and don&#8217;t go to excesses in condemnation. We are Islamic for the same reason as we are principled: our principles are Islam as opposed to any other worldview.</p>
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		<title>By: ABD</title>
		<link>http://gaymuslims.org/2006/09/11/irshad-manji-had-a-great-fall/#comment-2250</link>
		<dc:creator>ABD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Dec 2006 09:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kerry, thanks for the reminder about the subtitle of the site. this post is neither principled, compassionate nor islamic. and Allah knows best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kerry, thanks for the reminder about the subtitle of the site. this post is neither principled, compassionate nor islamic. and Allah knows best.</p>
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		<title>By: Kerry</title>
		<link>http://gaymuslims.org/2006/09/11/irshad-manji-had-a-great-fall/#comment-1386</link>
		<dc:creator>Kerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Oct 2006 17:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t get a laugh. This site is labelled &quot;principled&quot; so your contribution doesn&#039;t fit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t get a laugh. This site is labelled &#8220;principled&#8221; so your contribution doesn&#8217;t fit.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah Lee</title>
		<link>http://gaymuslims.org/2006/09/11/irshad-manji-had-a-great-fall/#comment-1327</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2006 08:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I laughesd so much my neighbours heard me thank you for clearing my lungs, i had a lot of phlegm going on there, comeiong towards winter, nice warm up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I laughesd so much my neighbours heard me thank you for clearing my lungs, i had a lot of phlegm going on there, comeiong towards winter, nice warm up!</p>
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		<title>By: Rasheed Eldin</title>
		<link>http://gaymuslims.org/2006/09/11/irshad-manji-had-a-great-fall/#comment-1226</link>
		<dc:creator>Rasheed Eldin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Oct 2006 10:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well of course I should, but at the same time, both are part of the experience at the MPACUK forum, indeed the &quot;random posters&quot; of course outnumber the official spokespeople. And I wonder how much difference there is in the two categories&#039; approach, if such are the people who are attracted to post there. Moreover, I do have disagreements with some of the offical articles, as I&#039;ve mentioned on here (e.g. in that Pav storm).

But anyway let&#039;s not dwell on this, as I&#039;m sure you can consider my criticisms in good spirit and not worry about them too much. All the best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well of course I should, but at the same time, both are part of the experience at the MPACUK forum, indeed the &#8220;random posters&#8221; of course outnumber the official spokespeople. And I wonder how much difference there is in the two categories&#8217; approach, if such are the people who are attracted to post there. Moreover, I do have disagreements with some of the offical articles, as I&#8217;ve mentioned on here (e.g. in that Pav storm).</p>
<p>But anyway let&#8217;s not dwell on this, as I&#8217;m sure you can consider my criticisms in good spirit and not worry about them too much. All the best.</p>
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		<title>By: ummzak</title>
		<link>http://gaymuslims.org/2006/09/11/irshad-manji-had-a-great-fall/#comment-1225</link>
		<dc:creator>ummzak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Oct 2006 09:31:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pls differentiate between mpacuk the organisation and just some random posters on the public forum. As for your banning we do not ban unless the forum rules are contravened, and only trolls are permanently banned. Please feel free to rejoin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pls differentiate between mpacuk the organisation and just some random posters on the public forum. As for your banning we do not ban unless the forum rules are contravened, and only trolls are permanently banned. Please feel free to rejoin.</p>
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		<title>By: Rasheed Eldin</title>
		<link>http://gaymuslims.org/2006/09/11/irshad-manji-had-a-great-fall/#comment-1220</link>
		<dc:creator>Rasheed Eldin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 23:01:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sr Umm Zak, you&#039;re very welcome and thanks for posting the link. As you see, my comments on MPAC haven&#039;t been entirely positive, but I do wish to be respectful regardless. I think it&#039;s quite sad that someone on your forum has already suggested that I am, and I quote:

&quot;probably one of those who thinks that &#039;there is no zionists lobby&#039; and if there is they have no power, and also that the &#039;neocons maybe nice people, we need to discuss islam with them&#039;. in other words, living in bloody denial&quot;

This kind of comment is exactly what I mean by comments that don&#039;t make me come back for more! I mean, if he&#039;d bother to read my site he&#039;d know better. But there is a tendency over at your forum to just attack, attack, attack. And not many people are deserving of such treatment.

Anyway, I was made more negative towards MPAC by the fact that I joined the forum, posted an introduction and was then banned without explanation, and nobody responded to my e-mail asking why. Perhaps you could oblige?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sr Umm Zak, you&#8217;re very welcome and thanks for posting the link. As you see, my comments on MPAC haven&#8217;t been entirely positive, but I do wish to be respectful regardless. I think it&#8217;s quite sad that someone on your forum has already suggested that I am, and I quote:</p>
<p>&#8220;probably one of those who thinks that &#8216;there is no zionists lobby&#8217; and if there is they have no power, and also that the &#8216;neocons maybe nice people, we need to discuss islam with them&#8217;. in other words, living in bloody denial&#8221;</p>
<p>This kind of comment is exactly what I mean by comments that don&#8217;t make me come back for more! I mean, if he&#8217;d bother to read my site he&#8217;d know better. But there is a tendency over at your forum to just attack, attack, attack. And not many people are deserving of such treatment.</p>
<p>Anyway, I was made more negative towards MPAC by the fact that I joined the forum, posted an introduction and was then banned without explanation, and nobody responded to my e-mail asking why. Perhaps you could oblige?</p>
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		<title>By: ummzak</title>
		<link>http://gaymuslims.org/2006/09/11/irshad-manji-had-a-great-fall/#comment-1216</link>
		<dc:creator>ummzak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 14:50:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i posted this on mpacuk forum hope you dont mind...keep up good work and thanks for your kind comments about mpacuk too! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i posted this on mpacuk forum hope you dont mind&#8230;keep up good work and thanks for your kind comments about mpacuk too! <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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