Comments on: Imaan and Pride http://gaymuslims.org/2006/06/23/imaan-and-pride/ Principled, compassionate Islamic perspective Fri, 03 Feb 2012 06:47:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Rasheed Eldin http://gaymuslims.org/2006/06/23/imaan-and-pride/#comment-10794 Tue, 21 Aug 2007 11:03:08 +0000 https://gaymuslims.wordpress.com/2006/06/23/imaan-and-pride/#comment-10794 Re: comment 19 and the point about divine laws changing over time. It should be pointed out that while we can talk about how Messengers of Allah through history sometimes brought an “updated Shari’ah”, this process came to an end with the Final Messenger, Muhammad (peace be upon them all).

In fact sodomy has been sinful as long as it’s existed, but even if we suppose that its ruling could have changed, we are obliged to take what the Qur’an decrees, and how the Prophet explained it.

]]> By: Taleb Haqq http://gaymuslims.org/2006/06/23/imaan-and-pride/#comment-10790 Tue, 21 Aug 2007 10:57:49 +0000 https://gaymuslims.wordpress.com/2006/06/23/imaan-and-pride/#comment-10790 Brravoo: regarding comment 19: Certainly the Qur’an is not there to break anyone’s heart or to kill the hopes of believers, rather, it is there to give hope for a better life, one that is freer of sin insha’Allah.

]]> By: Taleb Haqq http://gaymuslims.org/2006/06/23/imaan-and-pride/#comment-10789 Tue, 21 Aug 2007 10:56:15 +0000 https://gaymuslims.wordpress.com/2006/06/23/imaan-and-pride/#comment-10789 Proud, there are many others of that thought and are working through these feelings and gaining self discipline and strength through Allah’s commandments and the Prophetic teachings. You are right, we are all looking for our space in the world and we pray that we are doing it according to Islam.

Brravooo: Have you seen “gay pride” parades? They certainly are not pushing forward an agenda of modesty (you know…as Islam teaches us)

]]> By: brravooo! http://gaymuslims.org/2006/06/23/imaan-and-pride/#comment-10657 Sat, 18 Aug 2007 16:52:53 +0000 https://gaymuslims.wordpress.com/2006/06/23/imaan-and-pride/#comment-10657 .. i guess im hoping that Allah will understand the confusion..

Proud, that really broke my heart. Reading the quran on the story of Prophet Lut kills all hope that this will ever happen. However remember that not all actions are eternally considered sinful. Consider the act of prostration to another human being (story of prophet Yusuf) and incest (the first family in the history of mankind according to scripture).

]]> By: brravooo! http://gaymuslims.org/2006/06/23/imaan-and-pride/#comment-10653 Sat, 18 Aug 2007 15:55:33 +0000 https://gaymuslims.wordpress.com/2006/06/23/imaan-and-pride/#comment-10653 Taleb, were they all marching half naked? Mind you, they marched in a town where you could be three quarters naked and minding your own business enjoying the sun in the park.

]]> By: Proud http://gaymuslims.org/2006/06/23/imaan-and-pride/#comment-10574 Thu, 16 Aug 2007 22:40:55 +0000 https://gaymuslims.wordpress.com/2006/06/23/imaan-and-pride/#comment-10574 Taleb, to be honest.. I think most people that are a part of Imaan (or similar groups) are in denial – trying to find a justification or something that allows them to believe that what we’re doing is Islamically acceptable. I’m ‘gay’.. but i’m fully aware that i’m commiting a sin.. though i feel like, we dont have a choice in who we fall for.. i guess im hoping that Allah will understand the confusion.. the battle i went through, to even reach this point of.. comfort.. so yeah. I guess we’re all just trying to find our place in society, be able to live a normal life, just like any other Muslim

]]> By: Taleb Haqq http://gaymuslims.org/2006/06/23/imaan-and-pride/#comment-10492 Tue, 14 Aug 2007 22:06:00 +0000 https://gaymuslims.wordpress.com/2006/06/23/imaan-and-pride/#comment-10492 Proud, I don’t even know you and I never said whether you will burn in hell or not (you’re right that is up to Allah). I am concerned that my brothers and sisters get the correct information about their faith in the hope that they do not fall into sin. I hope that this point comes across clearly.

]]> By: Proud http://gaymuslims.org/2006/06/23/imaan-and-pride/#comment-10487 Tue, 14 Aug 2007 20:53:58 +0000 https://gaymuslims.wordpress.com/2006/06/23/imaan-and-pride/#comment-10487 I respect that you’re ‘concerned’ but, whether we burn in hell or not – thats between the individual and Allah.

]]> By: Taleb Haqq http://gaymuslims.org/2006/06/23/imaan-and-pride/#comment-10439 Tue, 14 Aug 2007 03:18:14 +0000 https://gaymuslims.wordpress.com/2006/06/23/imaan-and-pride/#comment-10439 Proud, we’re concerned about anyone sinning. This particular blog is concerned about people committing sins with regards to their attractions to the same sex. Is hellfire harm enough for you? This is the punishment of sinning.

]]> By: Proud http://gaymuslims.org/2006/06/23/imaan-and-pride/#comment-10417 Mon, 13 Aug 2007 15:41:08 +0000 https://gaymuslims.wordpress.com/2006/06/23/imaan-and-pride/#comment-10417 You know what i find so extremely aggravating? Everyone seems so concerned about gay people sinning, when we’re all the same – gay or straight – we make mistakes. I think we should just keep our focus on ourselves rather than being so.. judgemental about other peoples business.

Sex before marriage is haraam, if a gay couple we’re to practice such things, and wanted to have a somewhat normal life.. I don’t see any harm in that?

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