Comments on: When Muslims are brick walls http://gaymuslims.org/2006/05/15/when-muslims-are-brick-walls/ Principled, compassionate Islamic perspective Fri, 03 Feb 2012 06:47:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Rasheed Eldin http://gaymuslims.org/2006/05/15/when-muslims-are-brick-walls/#comment-14811 Mon, 14 Sep 2009 23:02:33 +0000 https://gaymuslims.wordpress.com/2006/05/15/when-muslims-are-brick-walls/#comment-14811 VM, you claim that sexuality is “black and white” in religion, but I would suggest that isn’t the case. It can be extremely complex, but that doesn’t mean that the moral principles should change.

]]> By: VM http://gaymuslims.org/2006/05/15/when-muslims-are-brick-walls/#comment-14801 Sat, 29 Aug 2009 07:38:14 +0000 https://gaymuslims.wordpress.com/2006/05/15/when-muslims-are-brick-walls/#comment-14801 What would have God said about internet? What are gods views on tunneled catheters for dialysis patients? What does god have to say about Larium for malaria prevention in the east? What does God have to say about sexuality. Its amazing how every concept has evolved over millenia from governance to law to music to science to space technology. EXCEPT SEXUALITY !

Sexuality is as complex as law or medicine or cholesterol plaque build up or how we use magnetic fields to sizzle protons in the body and then image them as they relax by MRI !!!

Why is sexuality still black and white? Why is sex only between a man and a woman? Why cant sexuality be as complex and evolving a topic like others?

]]> By: VM http://gaymuslims.org/2006/05/15/when-muslims-are-brick-walls/#comment-14800 Sat, 29 Aug 2009 07:31:58 +0000 https://gaymuslims.wordpress.com/2006/05/15/when-muslims-are-brick-walls/#comment-14800 Does God have a law against people who are born left handed? Or people who are color blind? How does sexuality, which is clearly considered a spectrum by all psychiatrists and scientists , is considered black and white by all religions?

]]> By: Anonymous Bi http://gaymuslims.org/2006/05/15/when-muslims-are-brick-walls/#comment-14736 Wed, 22 Jul 2009 18:44:48 +0000 https://gaymuslims.wordpress.com/2006/05/15/when-muslims-are-brick-walls/#comment-14736 L/G/Bism is to be viewed in Islam as a ‘challenge’. And as challenges go all persons are challenged by Allah, each of us in a different way, to live as He has commanded. LGBs must be helped along with understanding this fact and the particular challenge they face.

]]> By: Mr. HS http://gaymuslims.org/2006/05/15/when-muslims-are-brick-walls/#comment-14657 Mon, 11 May 2009 04:53:18 +0000 https://gaymuslims.wordpress.com/2006/05/15/when-muslims-are-brick-walls/#comment-14657 Islam is clearly against homosexuality and any homosexual acts. This can clearly be realized by the people of Lot and what occured to them. God has laid specific guidelines (among these is that homosexuality is wrong) in this world so that we may be true momins and submit to His Almighty will.

]]> By: Rasheed Eldin http://gaymuslims.org/2006/05/15/when-muslims-are-brick-walls/#comment-12206 Thu, 27 Sep 2007 02:06:27 +0000 https://gaymuslims.wordpress.com/2006/05/15/when-muslims-are-brick-walls/#comment-12206 I didn’t deny “judging” something: my point is that every person judges – should “judge”, in order to partake in analysis and discussion – and that it’s pretty weak to say “Who are you” to anyone who does so.

If you really want this philosophical arm-wrestle… It is relativism that is self-defeating; not so any absolutist position (not that I label myself as the latter).

I did not claim authority in my perspective, but Brittany seemed to demand that I have such in order to hold it. Yet if you’re to be believed, she would not hold that her opinion (“My views are not watery”) can be any MORE correct as a judgement than mine (“Sure they are, my friend”). So where can anyone go from there? Self-defeating.

]]> By: Sabri Ben-Achour http://gaymuslims.org/2006/05/15/when-muslims-are-brick-walls/#comment-12191 Wed, 26 Sep 2007 04:34:20 +0000 https://gaymuslims.wordpress.com/2006/05/15/when-muslims-are-brick-walls/#comment-12191 uh.. . .you explicitly judged Brittany’s interpretation as ‘watery’, that pronouncement constitutes a ‘judgement’. Brittany was just responding to your snide criticism of her, and legitimately so. You sound like YOU’re the one, Rasheed, who is short shrifting intelectual rigor for your own purposes. here i’ll explain it:

if, for the sake of argument that your presumptuous characterization of what Brittany believes is correct and she does believe anyone can have whatever interpretation and that it is automatically as valid as others, then the other side of that is that is that no opinion would be MORE valid than another, on which grounds she would consistently be able to ask you what makes you an authoritative figure to decry what you construe as her spiritual epistemology or beliefs are.

]]> By: Rasheed Eldin http://gaymuslims.org/2006/05/15/when-muslims-are-brick-walls/#comment-3328 Fri, 12 Jan 2007 09:39:26 +0000 https://gaymuslims.wordpress.com/2006/05/15/when-muslims-are-brick-walls/#comment-3328 What did I judge? This “don’t judge” mantra is usually used by some of the most judgemental people, as a way of shutting up people who might criticise their views or actions.

Brittany is the one whom Reza wrote the letter quoted just above, and she read my description there about the “watery interpretation”. She visited my MySpace page and wrote: “Who are you to say I follow a watery interpretation, sir? thank you.”

My reply to her then:

“I, Brittany, am a person with an opinion. Do you disagree with me? Feel free to express that. But I don’t need a special authority to come to an opinion. Surely that is exactly the essence of how you perceive Islam anyway – that anybody can hold any opinion and it is automatically as valid as any other – n’est-ce pas?

“And I should [add] that I don’t have anything against you personally, and hope your feelings are not hurt. Still, it is plain to me how the real crazies at MWU have used you and your journey to Islam to bolster their own attacks on other Muslims, attacks characterised by lack of intellectual rigour.”

]]> By: Taleb Haqq http://gaymuslims.org/2006/05/15/when-muslims-are-brick-walls/#comment-3249 Wed, 10 Jan 2007 11:24:06 +0000 https://gaymuslims.wordpress.com/2006/05/15/when-muslims-are-brick-walls/#comment-3249 Brittany…care to elaborate further on what you are talking about?

]]> By: Brittany Sullivan http://gaymuslims.org/2006/05/15/when-muslims-are-brick-walls/#comment-3063 Wed, 03 Jan 2007 19:13:25 +0000 https://gaymuslims.wordpress.com/2006/05/15/when-muslims-are-brick-walls/#comment-3063 who are you to judge?

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