Comments on: The C4 documentary (II) http://gaymuslims.org/2006/01/29/the-c4-documentary-ii/ Principled, compassionate Islamic perspective Wed, 23 May 2012 09:18:44 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Mohammad http://gaymuslims.org/2006/01/29/the-c4-documentary-ii/#comment-17483 Fri, 16 Dec 2011 18:27:28 +0000 http://gaymuslims.wordpress.com/2006/01/29/the-c4-documentary-ii/#comment-17483 That’s awesome! You truly ARE Rasheed Eldin!

It’s really annoying when people try to victimize themselves when they know they are wrong. I love it when you have wisdom of knowledge on your side, and you are not afraid to stand against the oppressors of truth.

I commend you Mr. Rasheed for your excellent writing skills, and your wisdom and knowledge of Islam. I look forward to more of your posts. Thanks, and may Allah (swt) shine his blessings upon you.

]]> By: Rasheed Eldin http://gaymuslims.org/2006/01/29/the-c4-documentary-ii/#comment-16018 Sun, 26 Jun 2011 13:56:47 +0000 http://gaymuslims.wordpress.com/2006/01/29/the-c4-documentary-ii/#comment-16018 Take your filthy mouth and your curses against God and stop trying to teach us our religion.

]]> By: Rida http://gaymuslims.org/2006/01/29/the-c4-documentary-ii/#comment-15892 Sun, 15 May 2011 02:13:44 +0000 http://gaymuslims.wordpress.com/2006/01/29/the-c4-documentary-ii/#comment-15892 Oh F off to the person who had a go at “criticially reviewing” the documentary regarding Gay Muslims in UK. Dr. Scot is right in his interpretation and reasons behind the whole gay issue. Islam on the other hand, largely speaks of “justice”- so if you call yourself a really good Muslim you better do justice to the gay Muslims by 1) accepting them as who they are 2) by giving them the right to compile and have a happy healthy family life and 3) by fearing your own damn Allah that he will question you on the day of judgement regarding the discrimination against other human beings based on their sexual orientation/ gender.

Who are you to judge someone’s love and affection towards someone else? We should be encouraging gay people to get married with the person they love- in regards to having a family, they can adopt children, there are plenty of orphaned kids out there who are abandoned by their hetrosexual parents. I am sure, gay people would love to have a family and like one of the guys quoted in the documentary that he was so happy the day he was blessed with children! So shut up, and be encouraging and supportive of gay people having families!

They are NORMAL PEOPLE just like you and me, they too eat, drink, work, have a family… they are to a large extent better than most Muslims who blindly follow Islam without understanding what it means. And if you consider yourself a bloody devouted Muslim, you better do JUSTICE to your fellow Muslims and human beings.

]]> By: Rasheed Eldin http://gaymuslims.org/2006/01/29/the-c4-documentary-ii/#comment-15407 Mon, 13 Dec 2010 15:55:54 +0000 http://gaymuslims.wordpress.com/2006/01/29/the-c4-documentary-ii/#comment-15407 You really walked a tightrope there, trying to condemn us for condemning, while not revealing the preposterous inconsistency and self-contradiction of that endeavour. It was bound to fail, but nice try.

http://gaymuslims.org/2009/12/19/the-caller-to-allah-is-not-an-oppressor/

]]> By: Bat http://gaymuslims.org/2006/01/29/the-c4-documentary-ii/#comment-15403 Sun, 12 Dec 2010 22:45:56 +0000 http://gaymuslims.wordpress.com/2006/01/29/the-c4-documentary-ii/#comment-15403 I believe that at the end of the day it is not up to us to pass judgments on homosexuals or anybody for that matter. The judgments from Allah (swt) are the only ones that can be passed and the only ones that have any validity. So you can sit her and write your jargon condemning other people for what you deem as wrong or you can go and ask Allah for forgiveness for passing judgments. To say what they are doing is wrong or haraam is unacceptable especially coming from another Muslim from the Ummah. Our lives are written out for us. This is what Allah (swt) has chosen for us to live. So by passing such judgments you are in essence saying that the path Allah (swt) has created for these people are wrong. Allah (swt) knows best not you, not the Imam at your Mosque, not that jurist or other human being. InshAllah you and other people like you who pass such judgments not just about homosexuality but anything else are forgiven by Allah on the Day of Judgment.

]]> By: Khalid http://gaymuslims.org/2006/01/29/the-c4-documentary-ii/#comment-14563 Sun, 11 Jan 2009 20:50:29 +0000 http://gaymuslims.wordpress.com/2006/01/29/the-c4-documentary-ii/#comment-14563 I have seen this adan documentary in the channel four it was quite informative about gay Muslims.But a lot Muslim family can’t accept their children should be gay off course it would be hard part to tell the family.

The sex b/w man and woman coming from the million of the years and that is how the world population grow up. So just few part of the world can accept same sex stuff. Rest are doing hidden and continue their sexual activities.

But that is prohibited in the Muslim countries. I believed gay love is just based on sex, lust and cheating as well. That is Ha ram the matter of common sense is have you ever seen donkey over donkey off course not.

We all are Ashra-ful-maklooqat if some one is gay it does not matter he should openly come up on the roads and wear funnky dress and tell i am gay and proud to me.

These activities just led just degrade yourself such as as Abdullah a man in the channel four documentary film who scarifies his children. He knew he is gay why he went and told her wife he is Gay. He was enemy of himself.

Civil partnership in the Briton has been announced from the prior 2005 it takes time until next centuries come when parents understand these marriages are also allowed. I am talking about Muslim family who never intend to their kids should do CP.

It is sort of Azab on LGBTS in this world. Thats it. I would tell you I am muslim gay man and had married with my partner in Canada from last 15 years.

But now we had started our new life and understand what is fact of that life. I am married with my wife i have good life with her and similarly the partner i had it.

We didn’t come up in the roads and told the people what we are we kept secret which does not hurt any one so that would be much better cause society can’t accept that much especially when it come Muslim family.

I have seen a lot married guys got kids, wife and still looking for young boys they should be spend better life with their wives off course love is not a sex it is how two people live together and care sex each other.

]]> By: Rasheed Eldin http://gaymuslims.org/2006/01/29/the-c4-documentary-ii/#comment-14553 Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:31:22 +0000 http://gaymuslims.wordpress.com/2006/01/29/the-c4-documentary-ii/#comment-14553 Thanks Akram, but unfortunately the question is still somewhat vague. Love is a human emotion and therefore not something to be analysed purely from a fiqhi (legal) point of view. But that doesn’t mean that we can’t explore this question in the light of Islam.

The difficulty is what this “love” you speak of truly consists of. Yes, two men can love each other for the sake of Allah, and this is the love of brotherhood. This is a praiseworthy love. But you have specified that these are “gay men” – so what kind of love would they have for each other that had NO physical/sexual element?

I can only suggest that you mean they would consider each other as the replacement for what their respective wives would be for them, but without physical sinning. Then it seems to me this is a sinful situation, but a difficult one to ‘pin down’. How sinful it is, Allah knows best. But even if it is major, I don’t see how we could consider it as taking either of them out of Islam, as that would happen only if they rejected the clear ruling on homosexuality, considering it permissible despite the texts and consensus proving otherwise.

]]> By: akram http://gaymuslims.org/2006/01/29/the-c4-documentary-ii/#comment-14548 Mon, 08 Dec 2008 23:58:49 +0000 http://gaymuslims.wordpress.com/2006/01/29/the-c4-documentary-ii/#comment-14548 im afraid u r not being clear answering the ‘love’ question, plz let me rephrase it, is love between two gay men a sin? and if yes then is it a major sin the kind that makes these men non muslims? or is it a small sin (kaba’er or sagha’er?)…and im talking about love with no sexual activities what so ever. thanks

]]> By: Rasheed Eldin http://gaymuslims.org/2006/01/29/the-c4-documentary-ii/#comment-12628 Tue, 09 Oct 2007 05:00:53 +0000 http://gaymuslims.wordpress.com/2006/01/29/the-c4-documentary-ii/#comment-12628 You may have to expand your question a little for me to answer it properly. In short, love is a blessing from Almighty God, and one of the sweetnesses of this temporary life.

However, not everything that is labelled “love” is automatically acceptable. One may love evil, and that is a bad thing (obviously).

Also, our love for God and His commandments should be more powerful than any other love, such that this love prevents us from being led astray by anything that contradicts it.

]]> By: CandyShopGirl http://gaymuslims.org/2006/01/29/the-c4-documentary-ii/#comment-12626 Tue, 09 Oct 2007 04:08:34 +0000 http://gaymuslims.wordpress.com/2006/01/29/the-c4-documentary-ii/#comment-12626 Yo!

What do you think about love? >:)

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